Thank you so much for the wonderful comment! You madwoman, it’s longer than the fic. ;) Ah, you’re very right about the Journey vs. Hide thoughts. I actually hadn’t thought of that at all, because Journey!TARDIS is chaotic and basically breaking apart, so I hadn’t given much thought to that sense of quiet menace not being there any longer. But it makes a lot of sense and it could have added something—on Clara’s side, the threat in Journey was mostly coming from the dead!monster!self, not so much the TARDIS. Can I just say how much I love your thoughts about the TARDIS? They’re both absolutely right and very beautiful. And most of the time the TARDIS is homey, accepting, a safe and protecting place for the companions (because they’re the Doctor’s friends, since she sees them as strays…), so it’s really striking with Clara, that ominous side. And yes, Clara being oppressed and folded… I just love you. You read deeper into my own work than I’d thought of going myself ;) Indeed, the Doctor/Clara dynamic is just much more complicated… He’s never had so many secrets from anyone right from the start—in s6 it was back-and-forth secrecy, his not talking about Amy’s pregnancy scans to protect her while the Ponds kept quiet about knowing about his death, with River the spoilers are a necessity and his RTD relationships were much more straightforward, but here he chooses not to share what he knows about her. He could confront her, decide that she has a right to know, know the part of her being she ignores, know that she is being protected and from what (well, he doesn’t know from what—but know about the dying). He chooses otherwise. He brings her around on seemingly random trips, all the while picking discreetly at her mystery, trying to elicit reactions or seek external insight (Emma). And even though he’s very fond of her and has grown to trust her, deep down he is still wary because he doesn’t know what she’s about—though she doesn’t know herself. "What are you, a trick, a trap?" etc. And as you said, he’s being weird—he came to her out of nowhere, never explained where he knew her from… she even remembered seeing him at her mum’s grave. They’re both putting on a face—quite fitting. And that’s a wonderful argument, pointing out that she always comes back home! I hadn’t given it much thought, but you’re absolutely right. *does the happy dance of great ideas being brought up* 'peasant, I shall share this part of my sofa only because you take so much place' Accused: Clara. Verdict: guilty. Sentence: Guillotine. I love you for those. Well. Even more. The TARDIS knows who Clara is, something worse than Jack who was a walking time anomaly, yet she is not aggressive, she doesn't want to kill Clara, she seems to resent her. We'll see, soon... Great point again! :D She doesn’t recognize Clara as a danger… Thank you so much, again. Your feedback is brilliance :) *hugs*
![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
timeasmymeasure
no subject
Date: 2013-05-08 06:44 pm (UTC)Ah, you’re very right about the Journey vs. Hide thoughts. I actually hadn’t thought of that at all, because Journey!TARDIS is chaotic and basically breaking apart, so I hadn’t given much thought to that sense of quiet menace not being there any longer. But it makes a lot of sense and it could have added something—on Clara’s side, the threat in Journey was mostly coming from the dead!monster!self, not so much the TARDIS.
Can I just say how much I love your thoughts about the TARDIS? They’re both absolutely right and very beautiful. And most of the time the TARDIS is homey, accepting, a safe and protecting place for the companions (because they’re the Doctor’s friends, since she sees them as strays…), so it’s really striking with Clara, that ominous side. And yes, Clara being oppressed and folded… I just love you. You read deeper into my own work than I’d thought of going myself ;)
Indeed, the Doctor/Clara dynamic is just much more complicated… He’s never had so many secrets from anyone right from the start—in s6 it was back-and-forth secrecy, his not talking about Amy’s pregnancy scans to protect her while the Ponds kept quiet about knowing about his death, with River the spoilers are a necessity and his RTD relationships were much more straightforward, but here he chooses not to share what he knows about her. He could confront her, decide that she has a right to know, know the part of her being she ignores, know that she is being protected and from what (well, he doesn’t know from what—but know about the dying). He chooses otherwise. He brings her around on seemingly random trips, all the while picking discreetly at her mystery, trying to elicit reactions or seek external insight (Emma). And even though he’s very fond of her and has grown to trust her, deep down he is still wary because he doesn’t know what she’s about—though she doesn’t know herself. "What are you, a trick, a trap?" etc. And as you said, he’s being weird—he came to her out of nowhere, never explained where he knew her from… she even remembered seeing him at her mum’s grave. They’re both putting on a face—quite fitting. And that’s a wonderful argument, pointing out that she always comes back home! I hadn’t given it much thought, but you’re absolutely right. *does the happy dance of great ideas being brought up*
'peasant, I shall share this part of my sofa only because you take so much place'
Accused: Clara. Verdict: guilty. Sentence: Guillotine.
I love you for those. Well. Even more.
The TARDIS knows who Clara is, something worse than Jack who was a walking time anomaly, yet she is not aggressive, she doesn't want to kill Clara, she seems to resent her. We'll see, soon...
Great point again! :D She doesn’t recognize Clara as a danger…
Thank you so much, again. Your feedback is brilliance :) *hugs*