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flowsoffire ([personal profile] flowsoffire) wrote2013-05-01 08:33 pm
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50th anniversary

Giving a minute of silence for the hope of any Doctor but Ten being back for the 50th anniversary special.
This is not supposed to be a fanfest. Absolutely not. Which is why Ten/Rose will be the only ones returning.
The team's choices are the team's choices, like it or not. Were the false hopes necessary though, I wonder.
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[personal profile] radiolaires 2013-05-05 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Martha chose to go. And she did see the Doctor again, being independent and still able to have adventures with him… In that way, she's the only one it still makes sense for to return!
She deserves the hell of an apology for his behaviour during their time together... But yes, her return would have made much more sense.

Donna's departure was tragic, but that's another tragedy that just shouldn't be broken…
Tragic, but to me me in an infuriating-how-could-that-be-okay way... I for one really would have no problem with her end being rewritten.

And Jenna-Louise, though she's had less time to prove herself.
Can't believe I didn't mention her *facepalm*. That's what you get for having a long name... Four syllables is a crowd. Of course, she will be brilliant. As far as I'm concerned she already has proven herself.

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2013-05-06 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
She deserves the hell of an apology for his behaviour during their time together... But yes, her return would have made much more sense.
Indeed to both…

Tragic, but to me me in an infuriating-how-could-that-be-okay way... I for one really would have no problem with her end being rewritten.
Definitely, but how to do that and still leave her behind? No parallel universe to keep her trapped here. And Donna Noble was going to travel among the stars forever… They all were mind you.
I'm just really annoyed at the treatment of her in End of Time… So she got a random man (at least they could have kept Lee? Library guy? Love a stammer) and that makes it all okay. Well no, cause she's still "so sad, but she can't remember why". But oh right, money and a wedding make it all okay! I would have loved for her to find something she loved and that thrilled her for HERSELF. A better career, a passion. Travelling still, if only on Earth!

Of course, she will be brilliant. As far as I'm concerned she already has proven herself.
Me too ;)
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[personal profile] radiolaires 2013-05-08 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just really annoyed at the treatment of her in End of Time… So she got a random man (at least they could have kept Lee? Library guy? Love a stammer) and that makes it all okay. Well no, cause she's still "so sad, but she can't remember why". But oh right, money and a wedding make it all okay! I would have loved for her to find something she loved and that thrilled her for HERSELF. A better career, a passion. Travelling still, if only on Earth!
THIS is painfully acccurate and, yes, exactly why I hate everything about her ending.

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2013-05-09 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
*nods* Then we entirely agree. Her getting her memories erased was awful, but tragic and necessary for her survival, and I'm a sucker for tragedy. But that scene when the Doctor brought her back—Sylvia! Wilfred! Her "yeah, see you" line! *heart shatters* But The End of Time… Of course it was lovely getting even a glimpse of Donna, but honestly the way she turned out was messed up. She deserved better. Back to the temp looking for a man, when she'd proved that she was SO. MUCH. MORE. And with her underlying insecurity, she needed that proof, that achievement. (Besides, wtf with the remembering-and-then-oops-not-and-stunning-people-while-she's-at-it?)
Ah well. Wilfred makes up for it? =/
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[personal profile] radiolaires 2013-05-10 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
We agree. Donna deserved so much better - Lee! To erase her character development in such a way -it really wouldn't have been hard to show something in the way she saw and dealt with the world had changed after her time with the Doctor, even if she didn't remember him.
But Wilf, oh Wilf, the only companion on which the fandom agrees. Bernard Cribbins was a great asset, hilarious, quick-witted, and his character really brought another perspective to the show. I understand the need to have companion in their twenties, the running... No, in fact, I don't understand; there is not that much running. Why don't we have older companions? Sorry. Yes, Wilf was perfect.

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2013-05-10 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
it really wouldn't have been hard to show something in the way she saw and dealt with the world had changed after her time with the Doctor, even if she didn't remember him.
Exactly. *sigh*

"the old man prefers the company of the young", like the Dream Lord said—but indeed, Wilf was just wonderfully refreshing. Well, there's also something for the audience there, probably—same way they're doing young and sexy Doctors. But like you said, the audience LOVED Wilf ;)
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[personal profile] radiolaires 2013-05-13 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"the old man prefers the company of the young", like the Dream Lord said—but indeed, Wilf was just wonderfully refreshing. Well, there's also something for the audience there, probably—same way they're doing young and sexy Doctors.
This is exactly the reason someone I know used to explain why she could never be a fan of DW: young and sexy.

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2013-05-13 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there's still classic!Who? (Which I ought to check more of…)
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[personal profile] radiolaires 2013-05-14 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Not really... Have you ever seen Mark Strickson or Mary Tamm? Hum hum... And heard Tom Baker's voice? *faints* (I've only seen a couple of episodes but what I saw really pleased me.)

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2013-05-16 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope, I hadn't! I've only seen the very first eps thus far, with Hartnell ;) Thrill for the fangirl, but the episodes themselves didn't all catch me that much. I'm not sure whether I'll try and go on with s1 for the hell of it, or just pop here and there and try different Doctors and companions. Second sounds like the likeliest option…
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[personal profile] radiolaires 2013-05-17 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
You definitely should try the others. It's very easy to find lists on the Internet of the best episodes for each Doctor. The pace is slower, but the stories more intricate and the atmosphere often very well set. The companions are delightful AND it is a little bit more science-fi.

[identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com 2013-05-18 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
:D Thanks for the insight! I'll keep that advice in mind ^_^ Plus there are characters I'm already curious about, like Romana, the Master, Sarah Jane and Ace, so I might have a look at those first too…
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