50th anniversary

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Giving a minute of silence for the hope of any Doctor but Ten being back for the 50th anniversary special.
This is not supposed to be a fanfest. Absolutely not. Which is why Ten/Rose will be the only ones returning.
The team's choices are the team's choices, like it or not. Were the false hopes necessary though, I wonder.

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Rose or the companion who keeps coming back... With each return the impact of her first 'ending' is weakened... To the point that, with my wibbly-wobbly viewing of DW, her series two departure did nothing to me. Absolutely nothing. Which is a shame because she was a very sweet companion, who deserved a grown-up closure.
Exactly. Her s4 return is forgivable if you ask me, it was /not/ supposed to happen but the universe was falling apart, blah blah blah, plus she was part of the whole finale foreshadowing. But not one more time. No way! o.O Just like you said, it ruins the very meaning of their separation…

Especially with companions like Donna or Martha who have been so 'mistreated' in their ending and really would need a proper conclusion.
Well, Martha chose to go. And she did see the Doctor again, being independent and still able to have adventures with him… In that way, she's the only one it still makes sense for to return! Donna's departure was tragic, but that's another tragedy that just shouldn't be broken…

have you seen this video and this one?
No, thanks for the recs. They were amazing!

And Jack was a great character but not representative enough of the show.
I agree, but I thought he might be a nice compromise since picking one companion meant reviving the fan wars and picking them all was impossible. Understanding the choice as well though.

Same about River.
Too many people are already sick and tired of River… It saddens me, but it would be unfair to shove her down the whole fandom's throats because Moffat (and us!) adore her.

I trust Steven and Matt and David and Billie to offer us a brilliant, fun and entertaining anniversary.
And Jenna-Louise, though she's had less time to prove herself.

No doubt about it, it will be fantastic and memorable. But this is such a missed opportunity. Like reading about the original cast of A Midsummer Night's Dream with Greta Garbo and John Barrymore as Titania and Oberon... It's a bit hard not to bite back tears.
*nods and hugs*

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Well, Martha chose to go. And she did see the Doctor again, being independent and still able to have adventures with him… In that way, she's the only one it still makes sense for to return!
She deserves the hell of an apology for his behaviour during their time together... But yes, her return would have made much more sense.

Donna's departure was tragic, but that's another tragedy that just shouldn't be broken…
Tragic, but to me me in an infuriating-how-could-that-be-okay way... I for one really would have no problem with her end being rewritten.

And Jenna-Louise, though she's had less time to prove herself.
Can't believe I didn't mention her *facepalm*. That's what you get for having a long name... Four syllables is a crowd. Of course, she will be brilliant. As far as I'm concerned she already has proven herself.

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She deserves the hell of an apology for his behaviour during their time together... But yes, her return would have made much more sense.
Indeed to both…

Tragic, but to me me in an infuriating-how-could-that-be-okay way... I for one really would have no problem with her end being rewritten.
Definitely, but how to do that and still leave her behind? No parallel universe to keep her trapped here. And Donna Noble was going to travel among the stars forever… They all were mind you.
I'm just really annoyed at the treatment of her in End of Time… So she got a random man (at least they could have kept Lee? Library guy? Love a stammer) and that makes it all okay. Well no, cause she's still "so sad, but she can't remember why". But oh right, money and a wedding make it all okay! I would have loved for her to find something she loved and that thrilled her for HERSELF. A better career, a passion. Travelling still, if only on Earth!

Of course, she will be brilliant. As far as I'm concerned she already has proven herself.
Me too ;)

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I'm just really annoyed at the treatment of her in End of Time… So she got a random man (at least they could have kept Lee? Library guy? Love a stammer) and that makes it all okay. Well no, cause she's still "so sad, but she can't remember why". But oh right, money and a wedding make it all okay! I would have loved for her to find something she loved and that thrilled her for HERSELF. A better career, a passion. Travelling still, if only on Earth!
THIS is painfully acccurate and, yes, exactly why I hate everything about her ending.

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*nods* Then we entirely agree. Her getting her memories erased was awful, but tragic and necessary for her survival, and I'm a sucker for tragedy. But that scene when the Doctor brought her back—Sylvia! Wilfred! Her "yeah, see you" line! *heart shatters* But The End of Time… Of course it was lovely getting even a glimpse of Donna, but honestly the way she turned out was messed up. She deserved better. Back to the temp looking for a man, when she'd proved that she was SO. MUCH. MORE. And with her underlying insecurity, she needed that proof, that achievement. (Besides, wtf with the remembering-and-then-oops-not-and-stunning-people-while-she's-at-it?)
Ah well. Wilfred makes up for it? =/

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We agree. Donna deserved so much better - Lee! To erase her character development in such a way -it really wouldn't have been hard to show something in the way she saw and dealt with the world had changed after her time with the Doctor, even if she didn't remember him.
But Wilf, oh Wilf, the only companion on which the fandom agrees. Bernard Cribbins was a great asset, hilarious, quick-witted, and his character really brought another perspective to the show. I understand the need to have companion in their twenties, the running... No, in fact, I don't understand; there is not that much running. Why don't we have older companions? Sorry. Yes, Wilf was perfect.

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it really wouldn't have been hard to show something in the way she saw and dealt with the world had changed after her time with the Doctor, even if she didn't remember him.
Exactly. *sigh*

"the old man prefers the company of the young", like the Dream Lord said—but indeed, Wilf was just wonderfully refreshing. Well, there's also something for the audience there, probably—same way they're doing young and sexy Doctors. But like you said, the audience LOVED Wilf ;)

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"the old man prefers the company of the young", like the Dream Lord said—but indeed, Wilf was just wonderfully refreshing. Well, there's also something for the audience there, probably—same way they're doing young and sexy Doctors.
This is exactly the reason someone I know used to explain why she could never be a fan of DW: young and sexy.

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Well, there's still classic!Who? (Which I ought to check more of…)

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Not really... Have you ever seen Mark Strickson or Mary Tamm? Hum hum... And heard Tom Baker's voice? *faints* (I've only seen a couple of episodes but what I saw really pleased me.)

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Nope, I hadn't! I've only seen the very first eps thus far, with Hartnell ;) Thrill for the fangirl, but the episodes themselves didn't all catch me that much. I'm not sure whether I'll try and go on with s1 for the hell of it, or just pop here and there and try different Doctors and companions. Second sounds like the likeliest option…

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You definitely should try the others. It's very easy to find lists on the Internet of the best episodes for each Doctor. The pace is slower, but the stories more intricate and the atmosphere often very well set. The companions are delightful AND it is a little bit more science-fi.

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:D Thanks for the insight! I'll keep that advice in mind ^_^ Plus there are characters I'm already curious about, like Romana, the Master, Sarah Jane and Ace, so I might have a look at those first too…