Clara/River, y u no exist?

[flowsoffire]

So, I've been vaguely thinking for a little while that Clara/River flirting (okay… Clara wanting to jump River is what I have in mind…) would be really cool, both in the finale and in fics. I would love it if that was part of Moff's "love triangle, but not what you're thinking!" plan, instead of… a love triangle… which I'd hate.

I've seen it done, and well done, but as a side thing in Eleven/River fics. However, I was convinced there were probably plenty of fun little fics shipping that around the fandom, and I was very entertained by the idea… But when I checked yesterday, I could find nothing of the sort either on FF.net or on AO3 and Teaspoon. I was pretty surprised—not that it isn't a big thing, they haven't even met on screen, but fandom does explore a lot! So I was wondering why nobody much has been writing it. Each of them is flirty, sassy, in each case there's a line to imply that they like girls too… Besides, come on. Eleven's face.

Personally, I'm not going to make it an OTP because Eleven/River is the core of all things and you just don't touch them, but I have more of a thing for Clara/River than Clara/Eleven (I love them, but not that way. Platonic!smitten)… Does anyone have thoughts about this? They should be a thing!

Finishing this by a pimp for dqbunny's lovely fics The lone and level sands stretch far away and The caged bird sings with fearful trill of the things unknown, both of which are AMAZING River/Eleven, angsty and insightful and hopeful and intense, with a delightful Clara in the middle, River/Clara flirting, smitten!Eleven, and, my GOD, Eleven/River/Clara/Jack as the brand new Team TARDIS. Yes. This is the stuff of my dreams. (Also, look at those titles… Enough said, no?)

Comments

[elisi]

My main issue is... Well. They're 99% likely to be related. All of them.

F.ex. there were quite a few Amy/River shippers back during S5. So a rule of thumb: Don't ship Moffat characters until you know who they are. (Moffat plots are generally resolved through people claiming each other as family.)

Mind you, if they *do* go the 'love-triangle' way, it'll definitely be the River/Clara route.

[honeynoir.livejournal.com]

Hm, you're right, it's always a side in River/Eleven fics! *mind blown* Whereas the Clara/Eleven shippers seem to ignore River completely, just... she's not in the picture anymore, like. I guess only including Clara/River in Eleven/River is the opposite of that right now? I would have thought it existed at least somewhat independently tho... maybe people feel like elisi, or maybe they just need to see them on screen together.

Or you could prompt it on the kinkmeme? Even though that's slowed down as well idk

[radiolaires]

I quite agree with elisi -even if Clara being a relative is not my personal theory. The hints are strong and it may deter some writers.

I'm simply afraid of Clara. I would love to see her frolicking with River, but... I'm treading on thin ice whenever I attempt to write her, because quite frankly I fear it will be jettisoned by the finale. As a consequence I don't write her at all. But I would love to read her with River.

I could even have a go at it once I finished the fic spurred by last week episode, and the one tickled by boxes, and the one woken up by the TARDIS this week...

[dqbunny.livejournal.com]

Awww, thanks for the pimping!

I was a bit wary of putting Clara in the fics because I'm pretty damn sure the finale's going to send that so far into AU territory that it won't be visible any longer. But, I do like writing the three of them together (and Jack as well, even Amy and Rory as you saw), and I don't see the dynamic as being antagonistic. River knows how important the companions are to the Doctor, and I think Clara will be in awe of River and wonder why the Doctor never talked about her. I think once the finale airs and you see how River and Clara relate (literally and figuratively) to each other, then there'll be more Clara/River.

[promethia_tenk]

Well, do think they're related, personally. But given Moffat's writing history, I figure all ships are pretty much ship-at-your-own risk at this point.

More generally, though, anybody else just not able to ship things they've never seen on screen? I just can't see my way to doing that, even things I might want to ship. But I am basically cannon's bitch.